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**Avatar 1:** Have you heard about this idea called the "heat cascade"?
**Avatar 2:** No, what’s that?
**Avatar 1:** It’s how heat builds up and moves from big systems, like the whole city or landscape, down to buildings and ultimately to each person.
**Avatar 2:** So it’s like heat passing down levels and making people feel hotter?
**Avatar 1:** Exactly. For example, global warming makes the air hotter overall. Then, fast urban development often means lots of dense housing, hardly any trees, and cheap building materials that trap heat.
**Avatar 2:** That sounds like a perfect recipe for making cities hotter.
**Avatar 1:** Right. All that heat eventually transfers from the environment to buildings and then to people inside or outside. So each stage affects the next, adding to the heat stress a person has to endure.
**Avatar 2:** Is the heat cascade just about the temperature outside?
**Avatar 1:** No, it’s more complex. Heat moves through different ways—like conduction, convection, radiation, and evaporation.
**Avatar 2:** Can you explain those?
**Avatar 1:** Sure! Conduction is heat traveling through solid things, like walls or roofs. Convection is heat moving through air—think hot air rising or a breeze cooling your skin. Radiation is heat coming from sources like the sun’s rays. And evaporation is when moisture—like sweat or water on leaves—turns into vapor, cooling things down.
**Avatar 2:** Oh, so trees and water can actually help cool?
**Avatar 1:** Exactly! That brings us to sustainable cooling strategies at different levels: landscape and urban, building, and individual.
**Avatar 2:** Let’s start big. What can cities and landscapes do?
**Avatar 1:** Several things. Large bodies of water like lakes stay cooler and help cool the air nearby through evaporation and breezes. Also, fountains spraying water can boost cooling in small areas.
**Avatar 2:** Are there downsides to water features?
**Avatar 1:** Yes, they need space and maintenance. Sometimes they raise humidity if the air doesn’t move much. Also, there’s a risk of drowning if people use lakes or pools to cool off.
**Avatar 2:** What about plants and grass?
**Avatar 1:** Vegetation does amazing things by shading surfaces and cooling through evapotranspiration—that’s water evaporating from leaves. Parks, green roofs, and facade plants lower ground and wall temperatures. But they need water and care and can raise humidity if there’s no wind.
**Avatar 2:** And trees?
**Avatar 1:** Trees are great—they block sun rays, provide shade, cool by evapotranspiration, and help manage stormwater. But their cooling depends on the tree type, and dense tree cover can sometimes slow street airflow, trapping pollution or heat at night.
**Avatar 2:** Can shading structures help too?
**Avatar 1:** Yes! Artificial canopies or awnings over sidewalks, transit stops, and parks block sun but still let air flow through underneath. However, they can be expensive and have to be placed carefully to provide shade during the hottest hours.
**Avatar 2:** Does air flow matter?
**Avatar 1:** Very much. Urban ventilation—good natural wind through streets and between buildings—helps carry heat away, cooling surfaces and the air. But it’s often tricky to improve after buildings are already built, and it depends on local wind patterns.
**Avatar 2:** What about cars and traffic? Do they affect heat?
**Avatar 1:** Yes, reducing vehicle density cuts down on heat and greenhouse gas emissions since roads and cars absorb and give off heat. Also, increasing active transport like walking and biking helps—but those outdoors need protection from heat stress.
**Avatar 2:** Wow, a lot happens at the city scale. What about at the building level?
**Avatar 1:** Buildings can be designed or retrofitted to reflect more heat away and reduce heat coming inside. For example, reflective coatings on roofs and walls bounce the sun’s rays instead of absorbing them.
**Avatar 2:** Are those coatings cheap?
**Avatar 1:** Not always. They can be costly and sometimes reflect heat onto nearby buildings or pedestrians, which can be a problem.
**Avatar 2:** What else helps buildings stay cool?
**Avatar 1:** Insulation is key—it slows heat moving through walls and roofs, keeping buildings cooler inside. Also, special window glass or films reduce solar heat coming in while letting infrared heat escape. But upgrading windows can be expensive and tricky in old buildings.
**Avatar 2:** Do shades help?
**Avatar 1:** Definitely. Awnings, blinds, or shutters block sunlight from heating indoor spaces. But they need to be designed so they do not block natural air flow if ventilation is wanted.
**Avatar 2:** What about letting wind through buildings?
**Avatar 1:** Natural cross ventilation works by having windows or vents on opposite sides to let air flow inside. This cools the building and people inside by increasing evaporation and convection. But retrofitting this into existing buildings can be hard and noisy.
**Avatar 2:** Okay, what can people do directly to stay cool?
**Avatar 1:** On the individual level, things like electric fans help a lot. Fans boost the cooling effect of sweat evaporating from skin while using much less energy than AC.
**Avatar 2:** Are fans safe in all hot conditions?
**Avatar 1:** Mostly, yes, especially if the temperature is below about 39°C for young adults. Above that, or for older folks, fans need to be combined with water on the skin to prevent them from making you hotter.
**Avatar 2:** Water on the skin? Like spraying yourself?
**Avatar 1:** Exactly! That’s called self-dousing—regularly spraying or wiping skin with water increases cooling through evaporation without needing to sweat more. It works even at super hot temperatures. But you need a steady water supply.
**Avatar 2:** What about soaking feet?
**Avatar 1:** Foot immersion in cool water helps cool you down by conduction and reduces sweating, improving comfort. But it doesn’t always lower your internal heat much, plus watch out for slipping hazards.
**Avatar 2:** I’ve also seen misting fans. Do those help?
**Avatar 1:** Yes, misting fans spray a fine water mist to cool you and the air around you, especially in dry climates. But indoors, they can raise humidity and hurt cooling. They also need electricity and clean water.
**Avatar 2:** What about evaporative coolers?
**Avatar 1:** They pull air through wet pads to cool it by evaporation and can reduce air temperature by up to 15°C in dry places. But in humid areas, they don’t work well and can be expensive. Maintenance is important to avoid creating mosquito problems.
**Avatar 2:** Are ice towels useful?
**Avatar 1:** Definitely. Placing crushed ice wrapped in a damp towel on your neck, chest, or head cools you by conduction and evaporation in short bursts. But you need ice and time to prepare—so not always practical.
**Avatar 2:** Can drinking cold water cool you off too?
**Avatar 1:** Drinking cold water cools you internally and helps prolong exercise in heat but doesn’t lower core temperature much once you’re sweaty. The water shouldn’t be too cold or it may reduce how much you drink.
**Avatar 2:** What about activity levels?
**Avatar 1:** Taking breaks for more than 5–10 minutes reduces your body’s heat production and helps cool you down. But breaks have to fit the job and need shade or cooler spots.
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So much info coming your way, huh?
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Actually, it’s more like a bunch of questions! Ready to get started?
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Yeah, but how exactly should I begin?
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Try following Hugi Hernandez, the founder of Egreenews. You might find him on LinkedIn or at egreenews dot org.
Avatar 1 :
Thanks for sharing that! I will write it down today!
**Avatar 2:** Clothing must matter too, right?
**Avatar 1:** Huge difference. Lighter clothes that allow sweat evaporation keep you cooler. Removing heavy or protective gear helps but needs balancing with safety.
**Avatar 2:** So many ways to disrupt the heat cascade and keep cool.
**Avatar 1:** Yes! The key is targeting heat at every stage—from the city and buildings all the way down to your body. That way, less heat reaches you, and your body can stay safe and comfortable when the weather heats up.
Avatar 1: Ever notice there’s always a catch to learning new stuff?
Avatar 2: For sure! Not enough data, not the whole story—always missing something.
Avatar 1: True, but it’s more about curiosity—finding new views from experts or what we experience.
Avatar 2: Yep, mixing expert advice with real life makes it click.
Avatar 1: It can get overwhelming, though.
Avatar 2: Definitely. With so much out there, picking a place to start is tough.
Avatar 1: If you want to dig into heat resilience, check the Climate Central and of course the work from the UNITED NATIONS!
Avatar 2: Great call. I’m a fan of The and the World Weather Attribution—super innovative.
Avatar 1: And the as well as the Red Cross Red Crescent Climate Centre has loads of helpful heat safety info.
Avatar 2: Right, but people move things forward. Like Hugi Hernandez at Egreenews.org—he keeps climate talk creative.
Avatar 1: There’s a whole network building solutions. Egreenews is launching new hubs, like eDisaster, so you can learn risk and resilience 24/7.
Avatar 2: That’s awesome. Whether learning or connecting, there’s inspiration everywhere. LinkedIn’s packed with changemakers too.
Avatar 1: So—want to start? These talks matter. Together, we prep our communities for disaster.
Avatar 2: I’m in. Stick around—we’ll compare heat with other weather and what that means for leaders.
Avatar 1: Hey, seriously, gracias a montón for being here today — really means a lot!
Avatar 2: Yeah, thanks so much for sticking with us! ¡Hasta luego, everybody! Catch you all next time
Avatar 1: stay cool out there and bye for now
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